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raju161
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Posted on 06-18-13 4:11
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Am i missing the fact or is it so unpleasant situation that our country cannot afford a sound rest areas along the major highways in Nepal. Will it work just by announcing no defecation area!
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Posted on 06-18-13 9:36
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Priorities, brother, priorities.
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biwash prawashi
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Posted on 06-19-13 11:38
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highway ta ramro chhaina aba rest area kata bata banauney??? rest area banayo bhaney it will be chiya and bhaat pasal
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Posted on 06-19-13 4:00
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Haina Karari banaune highway ma restroom? Ani restroom banayo bhane gadi kata bata chalaune? On second thoughts, were you born in US and went to Nepal for the first time? Haina bhane, aasti bharkhar tyo telefilm ma 50 (or 250) rupya ko mutis chora bhanara harya haina? That too, outside Bhikhuti Mandap.... and that was KTM ... highway ko kura garchan….lol...
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biwash prawashi
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Posted on 06-19-13 5:14
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you are missing the point bro....hes talking about REST AREA not RESTROOM!
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Posted on 06-19-13 5:40
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Posted on 06-19-13 5:49
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i think Raju is getting too much influenced by US. we dont really need designated rest areas in nepal. the best rest areas are the towns which are aplenty in nepal.
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raju161
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Posted on 06-19-13 6:15
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Posted on 06-19-13 7:12
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90% of population travel by bus and even the major highways are a 1&1/2 lane road and you are asking for rest areas...you can pull up by the side of road anywhere and rest.
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raju161
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Posted on 06-19-13 8:06
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1) It provides safety.
2) It is not right on the side of the road , it is off road space and helps in emergency stopping and resting
3) It has entrance and exit connection, parking areas, toilets and water supply
Have you people seen the condition of restroom in airport for domestic flights. Well cant expect more
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pshrestha78
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Posted on 06-19-13 8:40
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Am i missing the fact or is it so unpleasant situation that our country cannot afford a sound rest areas along the major highways in Nepal. yes, you are missing the fact that Nepali is poor, and yes it is so unpleasant situation that our country can not afford a sound rest areas you said, feel free to share views
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raju161
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Posted on 06-19-13 8:46
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But the huge chunk of money from foreigh aids and budget directed by road administration goes to the pockets of contractors and local goons. Thats the fact too.
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Posted on 06-19-13 10:03
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राजु म तिम्रो कुरासँग एकदम सहमत छु ..
ठीक छ अहिलेको परिस्थितीमा हामीलाई यो सोचाइ लागु गर्न गार्हो होला... तर असंभव छैन ...
हामी कहिलेसम्म बसबाट ओर्लेर खोला र झाडी पस्ने ?
हामीले जहिले पनि नेपालमा यो भएन त्यो भएन भन्छौ र फलानोले देश बिगार्यो, ढिसानाले खत्तम पार्यो भन्छौ । तर हामीले चाँही के गर्यौ त ?
मेरो विचारमा विदेशमा रहेका नेपालीले नेपालमा कि त पूँजी पठाएर सहयोग गर्न सक्छन् कि त प्रविधि सिकाएर ...
अब अमेरिकामा जति कमायो त्यति सकिन्छ, पैसा पठाउने त कुरै छैन बरु अरबमा गएकाले पठाउलान् । कम्तीमा पनि हामीले अमेरिका आएर देखेका र सिकेका कुराको बारेमा त नेपाल रहेकाहरुलाई सिकाउन सक्छौ ।
बसको टिकट काट्न देखि, सिटमा बस्न, बाटोमा खाना र बाटोमा दिसापिसाब गर्न सबैमा समस्यै समस्या ...
र अब बाटोमा रेस्टरुम र रेस्टएरियाहरु बनाउन भने पछि त्यसलाई दिगो रुपमा कसरी संचालन गर्ने र कसरी व्यवस्थित गर्न भन्ने कुरा आउछ ... यदि यात्रीहरुबाट शुल्क असुल्न थालियो भने फेरि पनि यात्रीहरु खोला र झाडीतिरै पस्ने संभावना बढी हुन्छ । बरु पेट्रोलियम पदार्थको बिक्रीमा लगाइएको कर अथवा रोडमा उठाइएको करबाट केही रकम स्थानिय निकायहरुलाई प्रदान गर्ने र त्यसबाट उनीहरुले यात्रीको सुबिस्थाको लागि यस्तो रेस्टरुम/रेस्ट एरियाहरु संचालनमा ल्याउन सक्छन् ।
यदि रेस्ट एरिया बनाउने हो भने कुनै पनि उपायद्वारा स्थानिय जनतालाई पनि सहभागी गराई त्यस्तो स्थानमा गाईभैसी चराउने देखि अन्य कुनै किसिमको विकृतिहरु हुन नदिने अवस्थाको सिर्जना गर्नुपर्छ । अनि यो कार्य गर्दा एकै चोटि नेपालभरि एकै साथ गर्नु पर्छ भन्ने पनि छैन, पहिले चुनिएका केही स्थानहरुमा नमूनाको रुपमा यसलाई प्रयोग गर्न सकिन्छ र त्यसबाट पाएका सफलता र असफलताहरु लाई अध्ययन गर्दै देशका अरु भागहरुमा पनि लान सकिन्छ ।
मेरो विचारमा यो आज नगरे पनि भोली गर्नै पर्ने कार्य हो र भोलीलाई नकुरेर आझै अगाडि बढाउन सके झनै राम्रो !
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pshrestha78
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Posted on 06-19-13 10:55
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But the huge chunk of money from foreigh aids and budget directed by road administration goes to the pockets of contractors and local goons. Thats the fact too. true, so you know the answer.
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pshrestha78
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Posted on 06-19-13 10:58
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Am i missing the fact or is it so unpleasant situation that our country cannot afford a sound rest areas along the major highways in Nepal. ans:But the huge chunk of money from foreigh aids and budget directed by road administration goes to the pockets of contractors and local goons. Thats the fact too. now the question arises are you /us going to do something about it? i doubt it..
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raju161
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Posted on 06-20-13 1:08
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Gt bro thats exactly the kind of answer i was looking for. I am trying to prepare a techinical report redarging this matter too and if possible direct it to the concerned authorities in the future. And thanks a lot for your valuable input.
this is another input by one of my friend in Environmetal field in Nepal
"I think its not about affordability, its more about management and approach. I think government has no plans at all regarding this particular issue, though overall government have policy for whole Nepal to make defecation free. I think there is also necessity to raise this issue to the government authorities. I think it is responsibility of Government to make proper plans,then monitor and coordinate with bus operating companies to provide good facility of rest areas along major highways. I think other issue is also about the condition of toilet facilities where bus operator stops during trip. I think there should be proper monitoring by government on bus operators and this hotels where they stop in highways regarding both rest facilities and food. Usually I think bus operators are also to blame who just grab monetary benefit from hotels in highways and do not provide good service to passengers. Moreover I think it is due to syndicate system of bus companies and I think there should be open market competition with proper monitoring.
Regarding you last part, announcing no defecation area I am confused, are you asking about announcing village and districts no defecation area or are you asking about some signboards in some area of highway with no defecation area written. If you are asking about announcing village and districts, no defecation area, then I think it is little different issue with those of highway."
Friends hope to see more of your valuable inputs
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Posted on 06-20-13 1:15
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Oho raju cha cha, derai pachi sajha ma thread kholna bhako raicha.. tapai ta hibernation ma thiyo bhane suneko thiye. La la comeback hola ni haina?
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Posted on 06-20-13 2:08
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http://www.actionaid.org.uk/bollocks-to-poverty/2012/03/06/women-get-infected-using-these-toilets-in-nepal-its-not-talked-about
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raju161
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Posted on 06-20-13 2:20
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Nepal, Kathmandu: lack of public toilets big problem for communters
Besides the public transport mayhem, the shortage of public rest rooms has become the single biggest problem for commuters in the capital Kathmandu.
Geeta Gautam, a first year student of Green Tara College of Health Science, usually avoids drinking water before leaving the house. The reason? Finding an appropriate public rest room to empty her bladder is next to impossible. “Until it starts to get into my head, I don’t go to the public rest room,” says Gautam. But when she does, she faces the inevitable unpleasant smell and conditions of the rest room, often leaving her nauseated.
A street vendor begging anonymity, reports, “How can a person like me, who has to save every single penny to run my household, pay Rs. 3 just to pee! Given no other option, he does his business behind the bushes or discreetly in an alley. In such, drinking water never comes to mind unless he is dehydrated.
Cutting back on water intake or holding back on urination because there are no clean and affordable public toilets nearby, can in both cases cause health problems, like kidney failure and urinary tract infections, respectively.
There are only 33 public rest rooms (including those in business complexes such as Bishal Bazaar) to cater to the Kathmandu Valley’s 3,000,000-strong population. Even these latrines contain no facilities for children and physically-challenged. Two restrooms in Kuleshwor and Boudha are out of order, while places such as Durbar Marg and Thamel, two of Kathmandu’s biggest tourist hubs, have no public restrooms at all.
[...] The Kathmandu Muncipal Council (KMC) is not entirely to blame. ‘As there are no free spaces available in busy areas such as Putalisadak, building restrooms is impossible. To make such places more people-friendly we are in the pipeline to install mobile restrooms,” says Chief of Environment Management Department at KMC Rabin Man Shrestha.
[...] A recent study conducted by the Green Youth Network, an informal network of environmental science students, on eleven different public restrooms (excluding mall and mobile restrooms), show 90% of public rest rooms operated under the KMC are cleaned three times a day. The general public consistently lists “no proper sanitation measures used in the public lavatory” among its top concerns.
But, according to research, 18% of public rest rooms in the Valley do not have a water supply and 55% use tainted water. Only 45% provide soap.
[...] Beside the low priority given by the government to public rest rooms, the public plays its part in adding to deteriorating conditions of such common property. Complaints on how irresponsible the public is when it comes to public rest rooms come from operators and caretakers. Users not paying the charge, dumping rubbish in the pans, thereby blocking toilet function, and spitting wherever they like tops their list of grievances.
The same research shows that the number of men who visit public rest rooms is higher than women. An average of 12-38 women visit the public lavatory per day compared with 45-140 men. The reason for this may be the lack of women-friendly rest rooms in the Valley. Male and female rest rooms usually have the same entrance, doors have holes and lack proper ventilation.
A busiest public rest room in Ratnapark has several non-functioning doors in the ladies’ rest rooms and also lack proper flush systems. Ajay Deuja, a money collector in this rest room wears a facemask to avoid the foul smell. “The rest room is much cleaner than it is used to be couple of years back,” says Deuja.
To ensure proper function and sanitation management, the KMC sends staff to public rest rooms for thorough examinations, according to Rabin Man Shrestha. Some rest rooms are also leased to private sectors or individuals as it has been found that leased public latrines are better managed in terms of sanitation and hygiene. “A public restroom is much cleaner in places like the one in Ratnapark, which has other services such as hair-cutting salons and juice shops,” says Shrestha.
Rest rooms in some shopping centers, such as Kathmandu Mall, are a haven for shoppers as they are comparatively cleaner and women-friendly. The newest addition is the mobile rest room which has people thronging in it and is currently installed in Basantapur Durbar Square. But there have been complaints of its odd location.
In addition to the above complaints is the high charge to use the public rest rooms. Public rest rooms charge Rs. 3 to urinate and Rs. 5 to excrete. However, Rabin Man Shrestha claims the situation to be different. “The official rate for public comfort rooms is Rs. 2 and Rs. 3 respectively, according to the nature of use,” adds Shrestha. “Recently a warning notice has been circulated to one of the rest rooms near Ratnapark which allegedly charged more than the actual rate.”
Source: Republica / NGO Forum, 26 Jun 2009
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त्यो बस बात उत्रिएर मुत्रासंन गरेर फर्कदा जुत्ताले बोकेर आएको अन्नासनले दिएको दुखको कुरा कसैले उठाएनन् नि ?
के हुनु पर्छ र के पर्दैन बारे हाम्रा नेता देखि जनता सम्म सबैलाई थाहा छ | कुरा जहा बात गरे पनि लेन देन को हिसाब किताब न आए पछि अगाडी नसरेको हो | त्यो बनाए बापत घुस खान पाइने भए हरेक २ माइल मा एउटा रेस्ट एरिया बनि सक्थ्यो |
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