Dedicated to Nepe -- who wasn't there but that did not stop him for assuming what it must have been.

This is here for the FIRST time ever.

oohi
ashu

Shyamu,

My last posting was my final. So your admonition is redundant.

And keep your record straight, please. This was not my Nautanki. It was of the other party, admittedly for the sake of a "good humor". Check the final statements of both parties.

And thank you for umpiring.

Nepe,
Please admit it. You accused oohi ashu without doing your homework. Ashu provided proof that you were wrong.

Just one line of apology would have been sufficient. That is all.

Nepe, your posts keep coming so dunno which one is the final one hence my appraisal - not at all admonition - could still be valid.

According to the records, you started the accusation or so called grilling, which then turned into a nautanki. So in effect you started the nautanki, and you seem reluctant to end it even after the final credits have started rolling.

What's the difference between Nepe and a barrel full of shit????
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Nemesis,

You need to do your homework. Because you are conflicting not with my statement but with Ashu's admission.

At the beginning of my grilling, I did not ACCUSE him of anything, I simply ASKED him if he included the King or not.

Ashu was silent (read his admission above. He admits that he was not only silent but also that he was silent for a purpose). By Ashu's own admission, he was silent intentionally- to mislead me and to make fun of me later ("good humor" ?).

Ashu misled me intentionally for a very long time. I am the victim of his deception.

Did Ashu apologize to me for this ? No. Then why should I apologize, that too for the thing I did as a character of the Nautanki Ashu had designed and played on me ?

Could you please give me the reason, Nemesis ?

If Ashu gracefully apologizes to me for misleading me for quite a long time (more than a year !), then I will gracefully apologize to him for GRILLING him for past few months.

This is the reason for my reluctance for a graceful apology, your honors- Nemesis and Shyamu.

Nepe, stop acting like a kid. All you are doing right now is pointing finger, blaming someone else while not accepting your responsibility. So basically you are saying, " I lied about Ashu because he mis-led me." Poor you. You must be quite gullible then. So now, stop playing a blaming game and for god's sake, and accept consequences of your action.
Esta manche Nepal ko neta hune rey? Dhet Terika.

Nepe,
You should wake up from the make believe world. This is not a court of law here or a game that needs refereeing where you refer to people who comment as your honor.
You started the accusation or so called grilling, which then turned into a nautanki. So in effect you started the nautanki, and you seem reluctant to end it. Don't you think you should let it this one rest?

- You accused him
- Ashu told you you were wrong but Ashu didn't find a need to defend something that was outright wrong and foolish because ultimately he knows what he said more than you do. I'm surprised that you claimed to know what he said more than he himself.
- You went on with your nautanki, teasing him to provide proof.
- Finally Ashu provided you the proof.

It's only a internet forum, you won't be less of a person by realizing that Ashu had you this time. He played you all along. He played your ego which thought it knew everything.

I'm sure there will be more battles. Be more aware next time. Good Luck.

ताप्के सेलाईसक्यो, बिंड भने नाम फेरी फेरी तातेका तात्यै छन् !

It's only a internet forum, you won't be less of a person by realizing that Ashu had you this time. He played you all along. He played your ego which thought it knew everything.

I'm sure there will be more battles. Be more aware next time. Good Luck.

Thank you Shyamu. You finally understood the whole Saga.

Only thing I will correct is that Ashu kept his silence for a very long time.

Correct it as,

Only thing I will correct is that Ashu had kept his DECEPTIVE silence for a very long time.

:-)

wow .. now we know who is the brighter of them (o:

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once again
what do i know?

Shree5 wrote:

"Ashu has somewhere said: " I do NOT back up the royals as much as I am interested in questioning democracy to make its ideas better for the Nepali context. Questioning democracy is NOT the same as being pro-monarch. My attitude is: when you question something in a genuinely I-want to-learn-about-this manner, then you come up with a better understanding of and higher appreciation for it. "

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Shree5, thank you for bringing this up.

As a life-long idea-junkie, yes, I would RE-AFFIRM that, the paragraph above pretty much sums up my attitude towards understanding ideas of all kinds . . . ideas I find
in all sorts of media from Web postings to newspaper articles to research papers.

I dislike dogmas of any kind.

I believe that vigorous exchanges of tentative to EVIDENCE-driven ideas in public domains (through open debates, Web postings, newspaper articles, research papers and so on) make up the BEST way to learn new things and unlearn old inadequate concepts.

And sharply playing the Devil's Advocate is often an intellectually effective way to understand the potential and the limitations of most ideas

As economist-philosoper Amartya Sen sayd in his latest book "The Argumentative Indian" (the contents of which are quite applicable to us Nepalis as well):

QUOTE "Discussions and argument are critically important for democracy and public reasoning . . .They are central to the practice of secularism and for even-handed treatment of adherents of different religious faith (including those who have no religious beliefs). The argumentative tradition, if used with deliberation and commitment, can also be extremely important in resisting social inequalities and removing poverty and deprivation. Voice is a crucial component of the pursuit of social justice. UNQUOTE

In that spirit, let's allow viewpoints of all on Sajha.

Let's celebrate Sajha's heterodoxy without CARICATURING (in blatantly false terms) those who disagree with us or have ideas that are different from ours.

Tetti ho.

oohi
ashu

Ah, the grandiloquence and the heroic stance of the Humble One, who is also the Devil's Advocate, brings tears of laughter--no, admiration, to my eyes! Caricaturing pompous gasbags is A-okay by me.

netazneta,

what's bugging you? do you have an axe to grind or something? what is it that you are trying to prove here? stop playing silly games.. get a grip, get a life... you're way to petty..

Ashu and Deepu (Nepe) both need to get married!! You guys have so much time in your hands.

This is in no way intended to restart the Nepe-Ashu wrestling again. This is in fact to give a proper burial to this comic episode. The head of the corpse that was missing is now available [thanks to San's effort to activate the Sajha archive].

This is also a piece of evidence to show to the posters like Nemesis, Pasu and Shyamu who believed in Ashu's totally false accusation that I acted upon what he terms ZERO EVIDENCE [Ashu has been repeatedly dismissing my claim that I did listened to an audio record of a part of the stand up ] to make assumption about him.

Please pay attention to the highlighted part of the posting (posted just 2 days after Ashu's show) that has things Ashu had been dismissing until the last moment.

Thread: Ashufoolery
- http://www.sajha.com/archives/openthread.cfm?threadid=14719&dsn=sajhaarchive#9786

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Posted by Nepe on 03-Apr-04 11:24 AM

Ashu,

You did it. That alone counts a lot.

Yes, the quality of the audio record was too poor to catch your words. However, the laughter of the audience told a lot.

This is the first time I heard your voice and it was much better (sweeter) than I had imagined. Sorry to tell you this, but my imagination about you was a man with a high pitch voice. ehehe.

I liked the joke about missing pressure cooker.

When are we going to listen/watch the rest of your show ?

Among other things, I am curious to know if you were balanced in coverage. Bhrastachari netas, pressure cooker wala krantikaris ta suniyo, aba raja_ko Mercedes [Note: I meant to say Rolls Royce, क्यार्नु बाउनले च्याउ खाओस् न, स्वाद चाल पाओस् :-)] ra Nagarik Abhinandan, which can be sources of good jokes, cover bhaye ki bhayen sunna man laageko chha. If not, next time perhaps.

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Ashes to ashes, dust to dust ! दुधको दुध, पानीको पानी too !

Nepe

Nepe, being Nepe, continues to be less than forthcoming about this saga.

What he conveniently FORGOT to mention above is that I had ALREADY given an answer to his questions WAY BACK on the 3rd of April, 2004. (please see below, especially look at no. 4)

My answer -- RE-posted below -- should have assured him then that, in my comedy show, I took on EVERYONE from Drabya Shah to Gyanendra Shah to myself to political parties to the Maoists.

But Nepe being Nepe could NEVER rest easy.

So desperate was/is he to tag me with a FALSE label that even when pieces of evidence were abunadant then (The Kantipur report, my own postings), that he refused to believe the evidence, and instead went on hurling labels at me for no reason (despite my periodical urging him to dig up the evidence himself).

When I finally posted the Kantipur piece, all hell broke loose for him.

Now he's scrambling to gain an edge, any edge, to show the world that I was the
wrong party.

What an entertainment!!

Then again, A man like Nepe does not walk away from a mistake this big.

So, let him scramble again and again to prove that he is right when IN TRUTH the things remain clear to unbiased and unprejudiced and sensible Sajha folks.

oohi
"the man with a deep voice"
ashu


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Posted on 03-Apr-04 06:08 PM

Thank you Nepe, Biswo, Dilasha, Sitara, San, Iso Freak, Rusty, Mitra 2, Tabasco, Deep, Paremendra and anyone else I have missed . . . in all honesty, thanks to your encouragement here on Sajha since January that I was able to do as "well" as I did
last Thursday in Kathmandu.

I was also lucky that other friends in Kathmandu had also been very supportive.

Friends' support, belief and encouragement count a lot.

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Nepe wrote:
"my imagination about you was a man with a high pitch voice. ehehe."

To that, all I can say is: :-) :-) :-)

BTW, the joke sequences were:

1) Enter stage: juggle three balls while humming Beethoven's 9th symphony.
2) Introduce self as Cheritra Wan Chela, and a whole series on Govinda Raj Joshi and other netas.
3) Jokes about the pleasures and plains of dating a Charitraheen Cheli (Krantikari)

4) Jokes about the history of stand-up comedy in Nepal: from the era of Drabya Shah to Gyanendra.
5) Jokes about my family and myself.
6) Jokes about the organisers: Dhokaima Cafe

7) have someone call me on the mobile on stage, and launch into a 'mobile' joke
8) Jokes about Nepal Accupuncture society
9) Jokes about "a doctor and a bag"

11) Jokes about the Maoists
12) Jokes about the political parties

12) Perform a joke in a sign language
13) Exit the stage.

Time: 32 minutes.

I'll try to post a video. But let's see.

If not, after the "a.pra.tya.sheet sa.fa.la. ta" of this, there's going to be another show -- in a few months' time. :-)

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal

Thread: Ashufoolery

- http://www.sajha.com/archives/openthread.cfm?threadid=14719&dsn=sajhaarchive#9786


Laughter on the side

The Himalayan Times News Service
Kathmandu, 31 March 2004 :

Better known as a staid economist who has been signing his e-mails for the last eight years as "Oohi Ashu", this individual has decided to break away from the mould and make a new beginning starting April Fool's Day [2004].

Oohi Ashu will be on stage delivering punch lines at Dhokaima Cafe, Patan Dhoka from 6pm in the evening.

"Psychologists have discovered for a fact that the shortest distance between people is humour," shares Oohi Ashu who is a business consultant by every normal day.

"When you use humour, it relaxes and releases tension. Laughter is a gift that we humans have. You don't see dogs laughing or cats smiling. Humour is also a sign of intelligence."

And while he is trying to juggle this new identity, Oohi Ashu juggles apples for us and delivers some punch lines that are really funny. Why suddenly does he opt for stand-up comedy?

"We live in troubled times," he says. "Both the government and rebels make absurd pronouncements. We can only look at them with crooked eyes and use humour to keep sane."

"During the Panchayat era, it was Madan Krishna and Hari Bansa, the MaHa duo who used humour as a powerful tool. The original purpose of humour, states the newfound comedian is to point at the truth from a different point of view."

"Humour can't be made up," he explains, "It is truth that must be explained from a different angle. It keeps you honest."

Donning a reflective look, he adds, "This is a brave but foolish decision. I am otherwise a very serious person. I've been spending sleepless nights wondering what I will do. I love Seinfeld but what I'm setting out to do is start something so people with more talent can come forward. Just set a pace, this is not a career change or whatever. I'm just getting myself out of the comfort zone."

Sarita Mishra and Salil Kanika will set the mood for Oohi Ashu's humour. The duo with Mishra on the tabala and Kanika on the didgeridoo have been playing together for three years now and they share that it is magic playing together.

"Both are percussion-based instruments and we follow a beat together," share the musicians. "It is like lighting a fire and suddenly we connect with the rhythm of life, the intensity connects as the tempo builds and we create a world of our own with just the tabala and didgeridoo."

Ashu,

Don't try to scramble the evidence. It's useless, my friend.

First, you are quite about the audio record. Then you are editing your old reply.


Your new version of the reply (10-Aug-05) is:

"My answer -- RE-posted below -- should have assured him then that, in my comedy show, I took on EVERYONE from Drabya Shah to Gyanendra Shah to myself to political parties to the Maoists."

The original reply (3-Apr-04) was:

"4) Jokes about the history of stand-up comedy in Nepal: from the era of Drabya Shah to Gyanendra."


According to your original reply, you were taking NOT on everyone from Drabya Shah to Gyanendra BUT on the history of stand-up comedy.

You new version of reply says the opposite.

Why this incessant lie after lie, Ashu ?

Admit it, you tried to set me up dishonestly only to be exposed miserably.

असत्यमेव पराजयते !