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Sursum Corda
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Posted on 09-05-07 7:05
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This is a international disgrace http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6979292.stm
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lootekukur
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Posted on 09-06-07 3:35
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i was under the impression, as it was not apparent from the BBC news, that they rectified the technical complications first and then sacrificed the goats to seek blessings or whatever. the 2nd Sep. news clearly states that they failed at the technical part and hence resorted to sacrificing proving that they are not just blind-follower of the culture , but they are plain stupid as well. i am still not surprised that they sacrificed the poor animal...there are millions of people (intelligent/educated/smart or otherwise) who sacrifice animals in different temples/occasions to seek blessings or for other religious reasonings. i for one had serious doubts about the technical strength of the aviation industry and this incident has only helped to increase the doubts and the feel of insecurity. back in the nineties, when airplanes from THAI airways and PIA crashed one after the other in a short span of 3 months, majority of mistakes were done by the ATCs (Air Traffic Controllers). With the geographical difficulties that the country's terrain offers, and the lack of adequate technical expertise, i am perplexed and to a great extent thankful to our fate (if that is what they call divine intervention), that not many air crashes have happened in the land of himalayas. probably that explains the rationale for the stupid sacrifice.
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kishnekale
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Posted on 09-06-07 4:23
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. RNA’ airhostess (ghattima 45 years aba ta) new welcome note" “ladies and gentlemen! its our great pleasure to share the information that our jets are boka-powered and we crew members are boka-charged....â€
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Bob Marley
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Posted on 09-06-07 5:06
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To Loote and those who say it's nothing surprising Just because some culture ate SHIT long time ago somewhere in their history doesn't mean we have to eat shit NOW, especially when we know it's just SHIT. We've a choice-be wise or be dumb.Animal sacrifice is out of fashion, it's a blunder mistake to the national image.The logo of the plain needs to be changed since it reflect only one sect of religion, also for the fact they will not repeat this sort of mistake (in the name of religion)again. My question here is: Will anybody be held accountable? Any prosecution? Last edited: 06-Sep-07 05:06 PM
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sahayog
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Posted on 09-06-07 5:59
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Bob, As far as i see, Loote is not defending the HINDU culture of sacrificing goats or any other animal. He is just surprised to see many NEPALI people being actually surprised when they most probably know that Animal sacrifice has always been a part and parcel of the HINDU culture.(again, not that the practice is right).
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ImI
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Posted on 09-06-07 6:24
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why these whites and wanna be whites so surprised? what about the bottle white break before sailing ?To get ocean drunk or what???
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vata-ta-ta
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Posted on 09-06-07 7:01
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Lootekukur: ...... the nineties, when airplanes from THAI airways and PIA crashed one after the other in a short span of 3 months, majority of mistakes were done by the ATCs (Air Traffic Controllers). Loote bro: I am not an ATC but I was involved in these probes in some other capacity. I agree to some extent that in THAI air crash, some ATC's are responsible. The report has already spoken about it. There was misunderstanding for position of a/c between PIC and ATC. For the PIA crash, PIC did not follow what ATC instructed. This led to PIA crash but remind that these are surface explanations. I cannot reveal details for both cases. These informations are already public. Dui sabda kya?
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भउते
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Posted on 09-06-07 7:08
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कुनै शुभकार्यको अगाडि हिन्दुहरुको धार्मिक विधि अनुसार पुजापाठ र बली दिनु अर्कै कुरा हो। जस्तै नयाँ बोइङ किनेर उडाउनु अगि शुभ साइतको लागि बोका काटेको भए यो यति हाँस्यास्पद हुन्थेन होला। अथवा, जहाजको मर्मत सम्भार पछि बोका काटेर उडाएको भए पनि यो त्यति हास्यास्पद बन्थेन होला। तर बिग्रेको जहाजलाई बिग्रनुको कारण पत्ता लगाउन नसकी बोका काटेर उडाउन ट्राइ गर्नु जो कसैको लागि पनि अत्यन्त हास्यास्पद कुरा हो। कान्तिपुरमा सबैभन्दा पहिले प्रकाशित समाचारले पछिल्लो कुरालाई पुष्टी गर्छ। मेरो २ पैसे कुरो।
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oys_chill
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Posted on 09-06-07 7:17
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Here's a little prick to the sleeping giants::: It is really sad to see, instead of criticizing the pertinent issue on hand, which I believe that an animal sacrifice cannot mend an electrical aviation problem, people are so busy brandishing their own personal propaganda.......religion and personal lifestyle...Amen to you!!!
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GwachAquarian
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Posted on 09-06-07 7:53
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I work in aviation industry and it was kind of embarassing ,,esp in front of my dhoti colleagues..khai k bhanne,,,i guess it's a part of being born as nepali,,bir goru-khali,,,that we have to put up with all these stupid asses..so called f**kin directors and engineers of *NAC
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sabaiko satru
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Posted on 09-06-07 8:07
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IT DONT MATTER GUYS. IF SOME PEOPLE GOES BEHIND SOMETING NOT DIGESTABLE TO THE WORLD, THERE IS NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF THE WORLD. IF U THINK SO, THERE ARE TONS OF THINGS THAT MAKE US FEEL ASHAMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AznshawtY
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Posted on 09-06-07 8:15
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LOL this is hilarious but very sad at the same time, the animal rights society will prolly sue them
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bkb
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Posted on 09-06-07 8:16
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Hello all, Please kindly allow me to add some lines here. I believe most of the people who posted are in US. If some or any of your co-workers mock about this news, why could not we say: We still follow our old traditions. All of us (including those pilots know killing goat is not fixing anything, but they (including me here) "believe" if we "try" to do something to appease God (you can replace it with "higher power" or "uncertainty") the problem would not recurr. THE PROBLEM WOULD NOT RECURR --- that's what I belive that was for. And i am quite sure no amount of $$$$$$$$ and time spent with repair work would be able to guarantee that. So wht's wrong with believing in our tradition here. BTW do not forget to remind your US colleagues that because of bush's rush to get into iraq w/o any exit strategy 1,000s of US citizens and 10,000's of iraqi people have been killed (which i think wouldl turn out to be in vain). Sorry it went little further than few lines. BKB
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ImI
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Posted on 09-06-07 8:57
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One of my co-worker emailed me the link .I was like WTF? i knew it before him.So, when he was in my cube , i even showed him the picture !!! what's there to be ashamed of? they will laugh when you worship stone.So , then stop going to the temple. Who cares what the world says. They laugh when we worship living goddess. It is our ritual,tradition. yummy yummy boka ko sekuwa khada dukhdiana timi haru ko tummy?badta bhera ufarancha manis haru yaha.Progressive Pupils. Commision and scadals took RNAC to this stage , it is not shameful? but boka slaughtering is shameful. kasto laj lagyo nakale nakalee haru ho
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merobhenaju
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Posted on 09-06-07 9:54
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this sucks! its a kinda shame
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Brain Malfunction
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Posted on 09-07-07 2:38
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I BELIVE THAT THE NEPAL AIRLINE MUST CARRIES SOME IN-FLIGHT GOATS AS EMERGENCY STOCK....., WHO KNOWS WHEN THE LEFT WING OF THE BOEING GETS DETACHED - AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AGAIN...
Next, anybody got any idea, what was in the in-flight menu listing that day? Must be Khasi ko butan and Khasi ko fried masu.. Lucky passengers of that day..
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pyaj_ganayo
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Posted on 09-07-07 4:41
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Samsara
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Posted on 09-07-07 5:00
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Imi says: "they will laugh when you worship stone.So, then stop going to the temple. Who cares what the world says. They laugh when we worship living goddess. It is our ritual, tradition>' And bkb says: "We still follow our old traditions. All of us (including those pilots know killing goat is not fixing anything, but they (including me here) "believe" if we "try" to do something to appease God (you can replace it with "higher power" or "uncertainty") the problem would not recurr" WTF? I WILL AND NEVER HAD ANY PART OF THE IGNORANT PRACTICE OF ANIMAL SACRIFICES. AND IT IS NOT A PART OF NEPALI CULTURE. IT'S PART OF HINDU CULTURE ONLY...AND THAT TOO ONLY A CERTAIN PORTION WITHIN THE HINDUS DO IT (THE IGNORAMUS' WHO BLAME EVERYTHING GONE WRONG ON SUPERNATURAL PHENOMENONS RATHER THAN THEIR OWN STUPIDITY). DON'T GO AROUND SAYING THAT IT IS PART OF "OUR" TRADITION AS NOT ALL NEPALI'S, HELL, NOT EVEN 1% OF THE POPULATION DOEST IT. BEING A BUDDHIST, I'VE ALWAYS CONDEMNED ANIMAL SACRIFICES AND ALWAYS WILL. HAHAHA JUST BECAUSE I'M A NEPALI DOESN'T MEAN THAT I SUPPORT THIS KINDA SHIEET. BTW, TODAY THE SACRIFICE WAS DONE FOR BHAIRAB, TOMORROW IT'LL BE FOR KAIL, DURGA...DAMN, A THOUSAND GODS TO APPEASE! THIS IS OUTRIGHT BS!! PS: The 1% analysis above: According to the WHO, there are approx 26 million Neps. There is no way on earth that 260,000 goats could be "sacrificed" in one year (not inculding the ones butchered and sold). There are only a handful of temples where sacrifices are conducted and it is downright unfeasible that each could do ten thousand + sacrifices every year. If you think I'm wrong, find out for yourselves how few templee there are in Nepal that conduct animal sacrifices...This practice is deader than the dodo. hahhahahah
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ImI
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Posted on 09-07-07 7:42
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Hmmm..Ok Samasara..I don't about your statistics but let me tell you this .So you are a buddist huh!!ok thats good.How well you follow his teachings ?? You like eating those juicy beef steaks , veil huh?Don't you. Remember, they are being sacrificed for your stomach !!!!WTF ok Do you have any idea how these animals are slaughtered in millions quanitity.Whats there to laugh? Yes, Sacrifice is Hindu culture and Don't bring religion war here !! Lot of culture follow sacrifice.People gets ashamed so easily when they should be actually be ashamed of the deep root of the problem which made the goat to be sacrificed!!!! THAT IS CORRUPTION IN RNAC NOT GOAT!!!DAMMIT!!
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Samsara
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Posted on 09-07-07 8:06
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hahahah IMI...So you're saying Sacrificing a goat to fix a mechanical problem IS OK?? Are you fuggin stupid? Hell, my car's side mirror broke (which really did happen this week), maybe I should sacrifice a goat to that and appease the "Road God". Ain't that stupidity, goddamnit!!! And yeah, sacrificing to appease supernatural causes and illogical beliefs is NOT THE SAME AS EATING AN ANIMAL TO CURB ONE'S HUNGER. Both are wrong, but to sacrifice something just makes no sense. ITs as if you're killing for fun. BTW, I was a vegan for a whole year until I was advised by my doc not to undertake it anymore since my body wasn't used to the extreme change in diet...Nevertheless, I try and curb the animal products I eat. hahaha This fool doesn't know that the one he's talking to walks the walk and talks the talk!!
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Posted on 09-07-07 8:20
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पहिलो कुरा आस्था पुज्ने हो, आस्था मा बिश्वास हुनेले गरे कसको टाउको यति बिघ्न दुख्न थाले। दोस्रो कुरो बलि दिएर कसैको घाटा कहाँ भएको छ? मेकानिकल, इलेक्ट्रिकल, अरोडायनामिक्स कहाँ बिग्रिन्छ? तेस्रो कुरा, कहिं कतै दुर्घटना या शंकटमा पर्नु भयो भने सबै भन्दा पहिला भगवानको नाम लिने तपाईं नै हुने छ। कतै न कतै मन भित्र त्यो सुपरपावर छ, जो हामीलाई मदत गर्दछ। यो बिश्वासमा क्रिस्चियन, मुस्लिम् लगायत सबै धर्मालम्बी चलेका छन्, हिन्दू र बौद्ध धर्म मान्नेले आकाश भैरब मान्यो, बली चढायो। के को टाउको दुख्यो? मनकामना जाने, भाकल गर्ने, पशु बली दिने अनि हवाई जहाजमा बली दियो भनेर खिस्सी गर्ने हिप्पोक्राटिक मनस्थिति बाहेक के त? हो, न गरेको भए नि केही बिग्रिन्नथ्यो होला। बली दिएर के बिग्रियो त भन्ने सवाल नि छ नि। कसो?
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