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Rockon_gal
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Posted on 11-26-05 9:19
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hey ppl i've seen lot of us born nepali kids not speakin nepali they say they dun feel lik speakin or hate to speak it y is it so??? there r lot of nationality here in us n lot of us bron kids speak their own language in hom or atleast they try to but y dun nepali kids speak nepali it bothers me so much is it juss natak?? or its juss me dosen't this thing bother ne1
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Kittycat
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Posted on 11-26-05 2:02
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it depends on the environment and friends, relatives:s
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Bhangli Damini
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Posted on 11-26-05 2:30
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Dear RG, That's the problem you were addressing. Your Thread needed the answer, WHY ? Among the different issues I mentioned above, the fourth one, the NEGATIVE EMOTION should be the one that distracts parents making them to think out of the box. Because of the language problem, they have lots of problems with fellow KHAIRES, which they dont' want to repeat with their kids. But, a kid who grows up in USA will easily adopt american culture. Parents dont need to worry about that instead they should teach them Nepali Culture as well as other family values. They should understand why America is LAND OF OPPORTUNIY? Why America holds the diversity-concept? Why America is America? Sadly, We have forgotten or haven't understood the fact. So,Parents fail to teach their kids the culture. I mentioned ECONOMICAL issues above because if a family has a good source of income they could socialize. Example, Indians - both husband/wife earns loads of money. Most of them are business people. In our case, according to my observations, few nepali couple hold such status in USA. If a family has low income, definitely they won't be able to socialize adequately, since they have to work long hours to hold the family. Also I have seen,Nepali families spending their free time drinking & partying than needed. That gives just the headaches and hangover. Indians families, when parting, talk about promoting business, teaching culture to their kids. At least they try. In our case, during parties, I have observed, Nepali parents, letting their under age kids to watch RATED- R movies and parents drowned into the pleasure of LIQUORS. These factors have to do a lot why U.S born kids are not into Nepali culture. It's not a kid but the parent who is not or not willing to provide the culture. Most importantly, we all should be thinking about these issues beforehand. For that we should understand: -Why America? - eg. diversity - opportunities that could be grabbed here. -What Am I doing to improve my life quality? -Am I doing the right thing? Always need to analyze and self monitor one self. HUSBAND/WIFE must be good friends and very cooperative to each other so to move up the ladder of success. They should rememeber driniking beers and whisky doesn't mean the form of socialization or modernization. The action of parents impact on KIDS. Therefore, it's the job of those respective parents to mold the culture of their kid properly. It was a nice topic to discuss about. This response of mine is getting longer; a book could be written in this topic. So I would like to say Thank You RG for bringing the issue.
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Birbhadra
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Posted on 11-26-05 2:59
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Farak pardai na. dui char jana le nepali naboldaima.
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world_map
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Posted on 11-26-05 3:54
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जसलाई जे मन पर्छ बोलुन्, after all this is a free world. म पनि त दुइटै भाषा बोल्छु, कहिले अंग्रेजी नेपाली accent मा, कहिले नेपाली english accent मा। Every language has beauty in its own place. I love Nepali and am more comfortable with it because I have spent two decades in Nepal. तर अरूलाई अंग्रेजी बोल्दा बढी आराम हुन्छ भने उनीहरूले बोल्न पाउनुपर्छ, no one can interfere in others freedom,'freedom of speech'.
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Rythm
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Posted on 11-26-05 7:02
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I think there is a very good reason for Nepali kids who are born here/brought here as a kid to not speak nepali. I have a cousin who was born here.. and she is about 7 now. She speaks only english too. The reason is- when she was a kid my uncle taught her how to speak in Nepali. During her pre-school and school times, she would sometimes talk in nepali. It was very hard for the teachers to communicate. Sometimes they had to call my uncle/aunt because of the communication gap. Due to this reason my uncle/aunt had to make her speak in english all the time. (Once she wanted to go to the bathroom and kept on saying 'susu ayo' and crying and no one could get it.. was a mess!!) Another reason might be due to social group. When I was 7, I came to the USA for the first time. My parents wanted us to talk to our mom in english so that she might improve her accent, but we would completely refuse. We never spoke anything else than Nepali. I stayed in USA for 2 years and my Nepali was already poor by the end. I DID speak Nepali but the reason I could not retain it as good was bacause I had no nepali friends. I would speak english in school, with my friend, with my playmates and neighbours after school! There would hardly be time to speak the nepali language. So I was more comfortable with english BUT that changed when I went back to nepal. And for spanish kids to speak spanish... Well that language is like the second language in USA. Almost everyone speaks or atleast majority understand it. So they have it easy!!
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Rockon_gal
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Posted on 11-26-05 9:19
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yea tyo ni ho bangali damini u r so right ..... hamro cultre yesrai nai masidaicha n we can't help k which really sucks malai ekdam dukha lagcha sanchi nai bhaneko ho m not braggin i really feel so bad afno culture ko taal dekera .... yeha where u frm bhanera sodhcan hai nepal bhanda wta where bhachan near india bhanu parcah balla ohh ok bhanchan kasto risutcha k aba tara can't help k there is nth we can b proud everset cha buddha cha tara ni koiii i ask evry1 here has anyone here seen whites knowing abt nepal yea i knw som of them do but very lil .1 % hola india ko bare ta ahile aba 98% jati lai tacha juss feel bad k n jhanai yo us born generation ko taal dekera ta juss dun ask how it feels really
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 11-26-05 9:27
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The best place to preserve Nepali language is "Nepal" and NOT outside of Nepal.
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Rockon_gal
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Posted on 11-26-05 9:33
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uff bhayo k kahobadi we all knw that dosen't mean bahira bhako manche nepali hoina
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Mr. Lonely
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Posted on 11-26-05 9:42
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I dont see there should be such a big fuss about the language thing. Its of course a good thing to know as many languages as possible for everyone. For the Nepali people who are born and/or brought up in US, all I can say is you don't have to be ahamed or feel bad about not knowing how to talk in Nepali. Languages are not that hard to learn especially when you have a passion to learn. So I would suggest them to try to learn nepali, at least try to speak in nepali with parents or whoever who knows nepali at home and in the neighborhood.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 11-26-05 9:47
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The very fundamental nature of culture is that it is "EVERCHANGING". So basically are you guys are trying to reverse or stop the very fundamental nature of reality from functioning ? A person will choose the language that is most suitable, most convenient and the one that has the highest value in his/her surroundings. The value of Nepali language tumbles to the bottom as soon as you leave Nepal. If Nepali language were widely spoken around the world like English or French, then the case would have been different. Try speaking Nepali at a your school or at your work or at malls/stores and if you get anything out of it plz let me know.
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mahakaal
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Posted on 11-26-05 9:58
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yaha kuro ke ho bhaney, hami nepali sappai modern hunu khojdai chum, nepali bolda izzatai jancha..opps status jancha, feri bharat tira ko pravav "influence" jyada cha..tya tira pani parda yeta chata kinnincha jhn yo ta arkaaaai kuro bho.... ajjha mool kuro ke ho bhaney hami nepali ko acharan kasto cha bhani,naya acharan......"sanskriti" jogauni hoina tyo ta purano kuro ho "culture" jogaunu parcha..... getting it
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F22
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Posted on 11-27-05 4:23
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sweetheart why didn't u post thing thread in NEPALI?
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Nepalover
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Posted on 11-27-05 6:00
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I would like to point out couple things I have observed here in US. I totally agree with Bhangli Damini "Among the different issues I mentioned above, the fourth one, the NEGATIVE EMOTION should be the one that distracts parents making them to think out of the box. Because of the language problem, they have lots of problems with fellow KHAIRES, which they dont' want to repeat with their kids". This is very true and I have observed this in the community I live too. I don't have kids but in the 10 years of living in US, I have noticed that the parents who has sound educational background tend to teach their kids Nepali language than the parents who do not have one. I'm not trying to make a biased judgement but People who came to US as any other means that the students (tourist, family sponsored, DV etc) seem to have problems communicating here with Americans and want their kids to speak Nepali. I also agree with Rythm that not having enough time to speak in Nepali makes it difficult for kids (like you went through when you were 7) to remember it when they speak english for hours. But lately, I have seen the increase in the families moving to US and the students here getting married and having kids.. so the population is rising and the kids will have chance to socialize so I don't think we really need to worry about preserving nepali language as long as parents are willing to save it. Last but not the least, I saw few people making comment as it is not nescessary to preserve Nepali language in USA, I have a question for you folks.... How will your kids interact with their grand parents or great grandparents (given that they don't understand or speak english)? If you don't give a damn about your parents and their interactions with their lovely little grandkids and have a precious time, then I don't have a say.
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Nepalover
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Posted on 11-27-05 6:07
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One good news to you Rockon Gal is that I've seen some Nepali communities in US and Canada have started Kids Program where kids meet every once a week or two weeks. They meet with fellow Nepali (origin) kids and learn to read and write Nepali language. They also learn nepali dances, songs etc. This is a very good way of keeping kids interested in learning and make it fun for them as they get chance to make friends and we can preserve the lNepali language to some extent.
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chicken.little
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Posted on 11-27-05 6:34
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Is this Rockon girl and exploerer the same ?
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Nepalover
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Posted on 11-27-05 6:49
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Correction to my post above: (on the second paragraph.. last sentence)), it should have been: I'm not trying to make a biased judgement but People who came to US as any other means than the students (tourist, family sponsored, DV etc) seem to have problems communicating here with Americans and want their kids to speak English.
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Rockon_gal
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Posted on 11-27-05 6:57
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hey i m not lik the one who alwayz speaks nepali hai ppl i dun need to alhtough i do in hom coz i've lerned spoke liv nepali for 14 yrs of my life n im perfect @ it well not perfect coz u r neva perfect but still hehe newyaz gud 2 knw that ppl r atleast posting here n thinkin abt it ok bye
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Posted on 11-27-05 8:50
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Not all kids that way me lop to talk in Neapli no enrajii ho ki Englsih.who hate to speak Nepali...............
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Nepalover
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Posted on 11-27-05 1:51
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Whoever commented above that the Kids born here or came here to US in a very early age do not need to know nepali, I had asked you folks a question and still have not heard from you: How will your kids interact with their grand parents or great grandparents (given that they don't understand or speak english)?
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u_day
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Posted on 11-27-05 2:16
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Rockon_gal, Ask that quesiton to youself. Maybe you are the one who needs to learn nepali, not ppl around you.
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