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Posted on 09-30-05 9:32 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Who is this woman? I heard she has had legal problems (she could not pay loans) in Nepal and she fled to the US. I also heard that she promissed some youths that she can bring them to the US and took thousands of rupees. She applied for asylum but has not been approved.
Watch out with her.
 
Posted on 09-30-05 9:41 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Freaks, who is she? and why are you interested on her? Shall we not talk about others personal issues here...
 
Posted on 09-30-05 9:43 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Freak, thanks for thr warning. I think this information should be also passed around by word of mouth. It would be quite unfortunate should this woman try to cheat 'sojo manche".


 
Posted on 09-30-05 9:53 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i_nepali, thanks for the warning re... you don't even know if that's true... First of all, freak could you introduce who she is at the first place...
 
Posted on 09-30-05 9:59 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I beleive fully with Freak's warning
 
Posted on 09-30-05 10:24 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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She writes articles on Nepali politics from USA. Her articles appear mostly on People's Review, sometimes in Kathmandu Post, and Nepal Times
 
Posted on 09-30-05 10:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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She is a Female Mandale. Check out her article in Peace Journalism on Pandey's visit.
 
Posted on 09-30-05 10:36 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here is URL

http://peacejournalism.com/ReadArticle.asp?ArticleID=6078
 
Posted on 09-30-05 12:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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she works in Subway in DC/Baltimore area.
 
Posted on 09-30-05 12:47 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hehehe...I have to say that piece in Peace Journalism is hilarious! If she wrote that piece, she should start writing humor!
 
Posted on 10-01-05 11:58 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I think she is pretty good at throwing dirt, this time it came back at her.

Moral of the story, don't throw stones to others when you yourself are living in a glass house.

Surprising Tulsi Giri, Jagat Gauchan, Tanka Dhakal, Cinet Shrestha and this woman and Gyanendra's other hoodwinks all have the same mentality.


 
Posted on 10-01-05 1:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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She is also a member of the committee formed by Ramesh Nath Pandey during his recent visit to the USA. The committe is formed to oppose other Nepalese in the USA who believe in democracy.
 
Posted on 10-01-05 1:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shame on you, Kamalajee. I thought you were better than that. U want to enjoy democracy in the US and think Nepalis in Nepal deserve autocracy. What a double standard!!! Well, there are a few who need to be publicly shamed.
By the way, I heard that you were fired from the subway sometime ago. Or did you join an Indian restaurant to "protect" your Nepali nationalism?
After all, Gyane does not tire of begging from other countries to oppress his own people and then talks about nationalism.
For Mandales, hypocrisy is the real thing!!! Or isn't it?
 
Posted on 10-01-05 4:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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[It is useless to call for civility in Sajha, so I am not going to do it, eventhough I don't like some poster's use of strong language to Kamala Sarup. (Note: I am saying this- just in case Kamala-jee visits the thread- to let her know that I discourage indecency.)]


Now about the Peacejournalism article that claimed NY rally was attended by a total of 65 people amidst other funny claims. Thanks Houston-jee for providing the link.

Unfortunately or fortunately, Kamala-jee has now removed that article from the website.

This article appeared as an editorial (with no name of author). However, Kamala-jee told one of the disgruntled NY rallier that the article was written by Sunil KC of New York.

I do not know this Sunil fella. But, if he is for real, New Yorkers might want to ask him in which elementary school did he learn to count ?


 
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Whenever I stumble accross Kamala Sarup's articles I also get to read that she is doing PhD in some US university. Which university?
 
Posted on 10-02-05 10:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here is a tabloid news about the crisis inside a newly formed "Rastrabadi [Mandal] Sangh".

According to the news Kamala Sarup is in the advisory board of the group.

- http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/nepaliweekly/janastha/2005/sep/sep28/mainnews.php#12

अमेरिकामा राजभक्तहरुबीच भाँडभैलो

न्यूयोर्क । माओवादीले जनसरकारमा गाउँका मान्छेहरुलाई सोध्दै नसोधी राखेजस्तै अमेरिकामा रहेका राजावादीहरुलाई जम्मा पारेर परराष्ट्रमन्त्री रमेशनाथ पाण्डेले खोलेको "नेपाली राष्ट्रवादी संघ" का पदाधिकारीहरुले संघ गठन भएको एक हप्ता नपुग्दै धमाधम अलग्गिन थालेका छन् । सरकारी ढुकुटीबाट पाँच हजार डलर खर्चर गरेर अर्जुन थापाको पहलमा मान्छे जम्मा गरी यसैहप्ता न्यूयोर्कको एउटा भारतीय भोजनालयमा सो संघको गठन गरिएको थियो ।

जसमा मनगढन्ते ढङ्गले पदाधिकारीहरुको मनोनयन गरिएको थियो । यसरी राखिएका मध्ये मुख्य सल्लाहकार डा. खगेन्द्र थापालाई आफ्नो नाम त्यसमा कसरी समावेश गराइयो त्यो कुरा नै थाहा छैन । डा. थापा भन्नुहुन्छ- "त्यो मन्त्री नै सिल्ली रहेछ, अमेरिकामा मैले यस्तो काम गरेर आएँ भनी राजाको आँखामा छारो हाल्न यस्तो काम गर्?यो, यस्तो संस्थामा मेरो नाम आएकोमा मेरो आपत्ति छ ।" आफ्नो नाम सल्लाहकारको रुपमा राख्नेहरुलाई फटाहाको संज्ञा दिंदै उहाँ थप भन्नुहुन्छ- "म त्यो संस्थाको सल्लाहकारको रुपमा बस्ने कुरै छैन ।"

यसैगरी अर्का सल्लाहकार डा. इश्वर देवकोटाले पनि सल्लाहकारमा आफूलाई राखिएकोमा असहमति जनाएका छन् । सल्लाहकारमा अब क्यानाडाका किरण ढुङ्गाना, कमला सरुप, नरेश श्रेष्ठ कमल पाण्डेमात्र बाँकी छन् ।

सो संगठनको सभापतिमा विशालविक्रम शाहलाई राखिएको छ, जो तत्कालीन परराष्ट्रमन्त्री नरेन्द्रविक्रम शाह, एमालेको नौ महिनेकालमा न्यूयोर्क मिशनको स्थायी प्रतिनिधि भई आउँदा भान्सेको रुपमा अमेरिका भित्र्याइएका थिए । सदस्यको रुपमा राखिएका र कोलोराडोमा बस्दै आएका इलामे गङ्गा चौलागाईंले पनि फटाहा मन्त्रीले गठन गरेको संघमा आफू नरहने जनाउँदै गरिब राष्ट्रको मन्त्रीले राष्ट्रको सम्पत्ति ब्रम्हलुट गरी आएर गठन गरेको बताएका छन् । संगठनको उपाध्यक्षमा राखिएका आङकामी शेर्पा नवराज गुरुङले यसअघि नै आफ्नो असहमति जनाइसकेका छन् भने राप्रपाका कार्यकर्ता चन्द्रबहादुर गुरुङले समेत त्यस्तो संस्थामा आफ्नो नाम कसरी आयो भनी प्रश्न गर्न थालेका छन् । यो संस्थाका अधिकांश पदाधिकारीहरु न्यूयोर्कस्थित ३९७७ एकाउन्ट स्ट्रिट बुडसाइडको बिल्डिङमा बस्ने गरेका छन् ।

 
Posted on 10-02-05 10:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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अचम्मको कुरा त यो छ कि, नेपाली राजाको गुणगान गाउनका लागि गठन गरिएको संघमा भूटानीलाई समेत राखिएको छ । उनी हुन्- विष्णु प्रधान । खुदुनाबारी क्याम्पमा रहेका प्रधान भूटानी आन्दोलन छाडेर अमेरिकामा शरणार्थीको रुपमा बस्दै आएका छन् ।

अमेरिकामा रहेका बहुसंख्यक लोकतन्त्रवादीहरुलाई काउण्टर दिन यसरी गठन गरिएको सो संस्थाका कारण उल्टै राजावादीहरुबीच भाँडभैलो मच्चिएको छ । त्यसैले संगठनमा राखिएका महासचिव आमोद कटुवालले नै भन्न थालेका छन्- यस्तो संगठन गठन गरेर केही पनि हुँदैन । संघमा आफ्नो नाम राखिएकोमा उनले पनि आपत्ति जनाउन थालिसकेका छन् । राजावादी संगठन निर्माणका लागि दिलनाथ गिरीगोविन्द गिरी कस्सिएर लागेका थिए । उनीहरुको चाहना संघको अध्यक्ष हरि शर्मालाई बनाउनुपर्छ भन्ने थियो । यही कुरा लिएर वासिङ्टनडीसीमा परराष्ट्रमन्त्री पाण्डे पुग्दा भेट्न गएका गिरी बन्धुहरुलाई मन्त्रीले कुनै टेरपुच्छर नलगाएपछि उनीहरु जिल्लिए । उता गिरीबन्धुले दरबारबाट स्वागत समारोहका लागि आएको रु ५० हजारमध्ये २५-२५ हजार बाँडेको आरोप राजावादीबाटै लागेको छ भने गिरीबन्धुहरु उल्टो राजाको नाममा आफूहरुको आठ सय डलर खेर गएको बताउन थालेका छन् ।
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Posted on 10-02-05 10:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepe,

Glad to see you transform into a tolerant republican democrat. Its good to read that you no longer ridicule others who think differently than you and that you are committed to encouraging decency in Sajha.

Is this transformation caused by today's Surya Grahan? :-)


 
Posted on 10-03-05 3:43 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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It's obvious that Kamala Sarup --who I do NOT know; though as a voracious reader of Nedpali media, I have read some of her pieces here and there -- is being persecuted
for her political beliefs on Sajha.

This is NOT surprising.

Persecuting others for their (disagreeable) beliefs is a favorite past time of some
of Sajha's chest-thumping, take-me-seriously-please "democrats".

Look at, to cite one example, how our dear Nepe takes this moral high ground:

He intones, rather grandly:

"It is useless to call for civility in Sajha, so I am not going to do it, eventhough I don't like some poster's use of strong language to Kamala Sarup. (Note: I am saying this- just in case Kamala-jee visits the thread- to let her know that I discourage indecency.)]"

He then gets off his moral high horse, wades through the gutter to then share, as he helpfully warns, "a tabloid" news about Sarup.

I mean, what do you say to a behaviour like this?

*****

My general question:

INSTEAD of getting on some sort of a moral high horse on a is-she-for-us-or-is-she-against-us manner:

Why not have the strightforward honesty to say: I (agree or) disagree with Sarup's politics, but I respect her freedom to espouse ANY political belief she wishes to take
up as long as she does so without engaging in violence?

And to add further: Sarup's personal business should be her personal business alone, and responsible Sajha folks sould NOT indulge in washing her dirty laundry in public.

What's the harm in saying all that?

Only such a consistency, let me be clear, allows ANY democrat -- self-proclaimed or
otherwise -- to DEFEND

either

Murari Raj Sharma (remember him? BTW, I defended his right to do as he did) for his alleged "pro-democracy" activism in New York

or

Kamala Sarup for her alleged "pro-king activism" in America.


Defense of these two different individuals does NOT imply wholesale approval of
their political beliefs.

Defense is simply a recognition that to be for democracy NECESSARILY means to be
able to allow EVEN those whose views one finds disagreeable to FREELY express
their views.

Democracy, after all, thrives in an EXCHANGE of views -- NOT in a Taliban-like one-sided attacks on those whose views one finds disagreeable.

oohi
ashu

 
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IF,

सुर्यग्रहणले त के छुन्थ्यो मलाई, बरु देशमा बढ्दै गएको राजग्रहणले पो हो कि ? राजभक्तहरुको नैतिक कन्तबिजोग देखेर करुणा उत्पन्न भयो कि, के बेर ? पराजित शत्रुप्रति करुणा भनेको विजेता-मनोविज्ञानको एउटा पक्ष हो भन्छन् जो ।


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अलिक समय भएको थियो, आशु के के न लिएर आए भनेको त पुरानै ढर्राको थाङ्ने कुरा पो बोकेर आएछन् ।

ए बाबा, कमलाजीको पत्रिकामा आएको प्रमाणिक फटाहा कुरा (verifiable lies) को आलोचना गर्नु कसरी persecution भयो ?

Ashu can keep on defending Kamala-jee's right [to promote lies] if he wants, however, here is a shocking news to Ashu.

Kamala-jee not only has removed the disputed article from her website, but also has APOLOGIZED for it and have promised to publish a formal apology in her magazine !

Now, what is Ashu going to say ? "Well, I was not SPECIFICALLY defending that article, my defense was rather a GENERAL one to defend her general right to political views and expression" ?

Let me show how थाङ्ने कुरा that will be.

Defending somebody's right makes sense when the person is DEPRIVED OF medium, podium, voice, pen, typewriter or computer keyboard. Is that is what happening with Kamala-jee ?

Nope.

What is happening with Kamala-jee here (I am responsible to my postings only !) is some CRITICISM about her magazine and to some extent her pro-king activism.

Now, if Ashu wants to defend pro-king activism out of his political conviction, fine. No further question.

However, if he is pretending to defend it on a basis of democratic principle, then here is a million dollar question- why does Ashu stops at Kamala's right ? Why does he not go up to defend Ram Bhadur's right to criticize the moral basis of Kamala's alleged support to the King as well ? If Ashu is doing that too, then what the hell is left for him to be pissed off the way he is acting ?

So here is democracy 101 for Ashu.

Criticism is a part of democratic rights.

And here is ethics 101: You have no right to criticize the criticism for being a criticism per se, otherwise that will be a self-contradiction.

*** *** *** ***

Some more unhappy news about 'Peacejournalism'. Citing differences with the way PJ is running after Feb 1, the following gentlemen have decided to dissociate themselves from PJ (advisory board).

Dr. Shyam Karki
Dr. Shiva Gautam
Roger Adhikari
Gaury Adhikary

Much earlier, three other gentlemen including Prof. Alok Bohora had done the same.

Still, others who have non-political (literary) association with Kamala-jee are contemplating about PJ's political bias.

More lonely journey for PJ ahead unless more rajbhakta like Dr. Khagendra Thapa come to fill the space.

 



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