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dang2california
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Posted on 08-11-21 1:20
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96.36 % people who are hospitalized due to delta variant are unvaccinated, out of which 99.14% ventilated are unvaccinated . and 100% those who died wished they have had vaccinated . life is precious than politics
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Tesla guy
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Posted on 08-11-21 1:56
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Are you dr fauci ?? Pfizer 39 % only effective in Israel. What day dangggggggggg
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Posted on 08-11-21 2:15
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@Tesla guy 39% is better than nothing right? I personally think its a safer choice for people get vaccinated. Why even take a chance especially when you know a lot of younger, otherwise healthier people lost their lives to covid.
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dang2california
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Posted on 08-11-21 2:32
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tesla, reprogram your brain from basics. having fully vaccinated only saves you going hospital and eventually graveyard untimely and nothing more than that . corvid is here to stay for many years to come and we can only nullify its effect through antibody . 39% effective doesn't mean remaining 61% are dying. the hospitalization rate of Israel is less than 2% and majority who are ill had the Russian EpiVacCorona (sputnik) vaccine taken not pfizer .
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Posted on 08-11-21 3:00
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CDC just came out with a new study that found vaccinated people are getting infected with covid more than unvaccinated people.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm
Follow the science. Science keeps changing.
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Tesla guy
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Posted on 08-11-21 3:37
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I am not showing any sorts of dissatisfaction on vaccines . But as time passes no human made vaccines are not going to function as this virus will definately replicate itself and change its form to become more deadlier ?? Does this mean that the only way to live life in future will be 3 shots of vaccine per yr?? Are you guys ready for that . This is just my thought .
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independent
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Posted on 08-11-21 3:59
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The political influence exerted by vaccine industry is becoming very strong in addition to owners of social media are heavily investing on the vaccine industry. It's a big market out there and most of the source of information and news that people rely are simply marketing for the profit of their masters! Good luck not getting screwed either ways!
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dang2california
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Posted on 08-11-21 4:33
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question is not who gets infected, but who comes out of infection . i got infected twice before and after vaccination. the first one was very painful, i could not even explain in words . i also got infected roughly 4 months after vaccination, but it was asymptomatic . . so, how i figured out i was positive ? i went to hospital for a different purpose, and was tested positive. for the same reason my family had to be quarantined for 2 wks because i know there are plenty of guys out there who are not vaccinated and like myself they too have families. unfortunately, we might have 2 live with covid and just like other regular flu, booster might be needed every year . those who resist vaccination will either vanish from earth once like dinosaur or will change their mind , there is unfortunately no third way out .
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Posted on 08-11-21 4:57
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When it fits your narrative, then you use CDC or other health agency data and if it does not fit the narrative, you discard the data. Getting covid infection while fully vaccinated is not new now because it is not 100% effective and with this delta variant it is even less. Vaccination is the best available option right now to not get severely ill or hospitalized or die. CDC SAYS SO.
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independent
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Posted on 08-11-21 5:29
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Lol so brainwashed with one narrative that you discard any other narrative even if it comes from the same source! CDC RESEARCH SHOWS MORE COVID CASE AMONG VACCINATED AND IT WAS PUBLISHED LAST WEEK IE NEW INFO.
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Posted on 08-11-21 7:11
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Tesla guy, if three shots a year will make the world normal, please count me in. I take flu shots every year anyway, so not worried about a few more.
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Posted on 08-11-21 10:21
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independent, then f***ing die of Covid, who cares, one less f***ed up ahole burden to this world! :)
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Posted on 08-11-21 11:18
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Dkhanal. I am early 20s healthy. My demographics does not have to worry too much right now. If you look at the research coming in its mostly people with other existing conditions. So you go take care of your aging parents with multiple existing conditions and don’t wish anyone die of f***ing covid. Specially now that CDC study shows that vaccinated people are getting more cases of covid than the unvaccinated ones.
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Posted on 08-12-21 8:13
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Tesla Guy: Reading your comment reminded my middle class time. Once in a while we used to heard rumors of apocalyptic and believing it I used to say why we have to do it. Eventually we are going to die from apocalyptic and it may turnout an APOCALYPTIC people like you. In High School, had a friend who used us to distract very much. We're districted easily but he was a owl and getting better score in tests. Your were the first on the line to get vaccination, your may be a HYPOCRITE like my high school friend.
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Posted on 08-12-21 11:17
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Playing politics with community health is so wrong . Covid is an airborne disease so wearing masks should be common sense but then politicians talk about personal liberty so they can achieve some political gain and win a reelection in their conservative base .They dont care if 635000 people have already died from the disease . Vaccines helps your immune system get ready for the virus in case you get infected . It works only if all the people in a community work together and get herd immunity or the virus will find a weak host and keep mutating and the same people who cultivate the virus will say vaccines dont work . Yeah vaccine will be less efficient everytime it will get a chance to infect a weak immune system and replicate. Duh.
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Posted on 08-16-21 9:48
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People who want to get vaccinated get vaccinated and people who don't want don't. So stop harassing people to get vaccinated. I got COVID delta variant and suffered from mild fever and sore throat for a week. In less than 10 days I was back to normal. People seem to have forgotten the fact that COVID does not kill as much as the media and the government likes you to believe. What next? Vaccination against diarrhea, against cold, against migraine, against body ache etc? People with weaker immune system die even from cold. So work on improving your lifestyle, your immune system and stop relying solely on vaccines.
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dang2california
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Posted on 08-16-21 10:25
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i am sorry for 10 miserable days of your life, you know you could have avoided it. i know how it feels, been there . get vaccinated, save lives
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independent
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Posted on 08-16-21 11:20
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The vaccine makers, the big money pharma colluding with politicians is nothing new - but most people won't have a clue about it or don't want to even try to understand it because it's easier for their simple brains to be a victim of fear mongering politics of fear through the marketing effort of the big money industry through their businesses of media. It's easy for them to accept the vaccine no matter if there's been enough research done on it or not. Like hurray said, people get sick all the time due to their immune health and underlying health conditions. If the media goes into a marketing propaganda to introduce a vaccine for diarrhea, people like dang2california will be the first one to stay in line. Follow the covid trail. It starts with gain of function being banned in the US in 2014 because it was not smart to try to modify animal based virus to affect human beings. The person who was for the gain of research function was none other than Fauci. He is quoted as saying that gain of function research is worth it even if it resulted in pandemic. https://nypost.com/2021/05/28/fauci-once-argued-viral-experiments-worth-the-risk-of-pandemic/ Fauci then went on to support Chinese labs to study these by giving $$$ from US taxpayers. https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741
Fauci has been exposed in detail in this article https://www.citizensjournal.us/fauci-exposed-historical-research-of-covid/ but as he is very powerful backed by powerful allies who all benefit from vaccine mandates, noone has been able to do anything about it.
In the same thread, Bill gates and Fauci go back a long way https://minnesotareformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/unnamed.png
Bill Gates has given interview stating that his investment of 10 billion dollars in vaccine industry will yield 200 billion profit. Bill Gates has been giving over $300 million to the World Health Organization, and working on pandemic related experimental events like event 201 where they ran an exercise of how to maintain control over the population during pandemic. Bill Gates has been funding most media companies so they will try to air his narrative and block any other narrative. https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
Parallel to Fauci and Gates the creator of PCR test Kary Mullis is of importance in the whole timeline. The inventor of PCR Kary Mullis has said time and again that PCR test cannot be used to diagnose any disease because the PCR test can amplify a molecule and find things that do not make any relevance to a person's health. The more you amplify through PCR cycle, the less effective it becomes. The test inventor said that you cannot use this test more than 20 cycle amplifications. He was heavily against the use of PCR test during aids epidemic. Interestingly he died of pnemonia 2 months before Covid was out in China. Pnemonia can be one of the results of Covid.
Not there were no credible protest against PCR tests and the CDC and WHO used standard measurement of 35-40 cycles for the PCR test to tag people as Covid infected. There are thousands of cases where PCR tests resulted in one result one moment and another result the next moment but these were considered to be the standard of testing as there was a high probability of positive result shown due to the high amplification cycles used.
Another thing was the hydrochloroquinn involvement. When doctors found that this medicine worked, the media and vaccine industry were quick to denounce it in the Lancet research magazine, as Emergency Use Authorization of any vaccine is not possible if there is any treatment possible. Just before emergency use authorization was authorized by the FDA, the lancet quietly retracted their article about the ineffectiveness of hydrochloroquin because the research paper was not credible. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200605/lancet-retracts-hydroxychloroquine-study
There is a lot involved but it's just easier to take in the media narrative and get vaccinated. So go get vaccinated!
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Posted on 08-18-21 10:00
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Lot of people who disbelieve that the govt can make decisions that are not beneficial to the people, just look at the Afganisthan fiasco. Lots and lots of US army personnel had to lose their lives and for what? 2 trillion dollars made it to the defense contractors and industrialists with cushy kickbacks to the politicians. This is how America works. You may not be able to do anything about it but just knowing how it works will help you make better decisions when it comes to understanding these things.
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Posted on 08-19-21 10:13
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This kind of chaos would happen Trump had negotiated with al-Qaeda. Biden and his administration could not understand the power hold by al-Qaeda and Afgan military wanted to stay alive and did not have any courage to stand against al-Qaeda in past and coming future. al-Qaeda is backed by Pakistani army and many Islamic nation. It is second worst war fought by America after Vietnam. Independent is right on powerful lobbyist and Trump did not use the test kits used by WHO awaited months to get US test kits. US should have started testing from the day one what ever test kits available, did not. Behind it has the powerful lobbyist personal benefits and madman's impulsive politics. Who ever dying even after 2nd dose of vaccine must have underline medical issue. I would like to ask you who is promoting misinformation, do you go to doctor if you are sick? Why do you go? The same reason I took it. Life is very precious and lets enjoy is fully and healthy. One of my closest family friend who was only 63 years old and healthy as stallion past away from Covid delta variant.
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